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Thursday, February 16, 2012

Can Genesis Be Compatible With Evolution?


Very interesting discussion:
Can Genesis Be Compatible With Evolution? at University of California Veritas Forum.

Some interesting points:
  • To read the Bible, you have to ask, "what type of literature am I reading?" Historical, poetry, law, wisdom, letters...?
  • Genesis: God breathed into Adam and gave him life.  But God is a spirit, so breath is a comment on humanity and its dignity (vs. Babylonian creation - from spit and blood of a demon God)
  • Two creation stories in Genesis, and they have different order of creation - indication that it should be taken figuratively?
  • Genealogy of Bible doesn't correspond with scientific date of earth:
    • Genealogy of Bible skipped generations
  • Days in Genesis are figurative: How can you have a day when you haven't even created the sun, moon, and earth? Genesis was written as rivaling Babylonian texts and other creation texts, saying it was Yahweh (God) who created everything.
  • Adam as a historical figure?: 
    • Genesis 1 illustrates man's relationship with God. Genesis 3 tells how God didn't create man as sinful, but man chose to rebel.  And regarding actually there being one couple? - can't say; overly speculative.  But based on genetic evidence and patterns of diversity mapping, humans are one blood, one origin. Polyphyletic theory is incorrect, and belief in it has spurred holocost and other ethnic cleansing.  "There's ambiguity, interpretive room"
  • Humans on being unique: 
    • Being able to feel guilt
    • Altruism - no genetic basis b/c less selfishness will die out (although I disagree with this point - there have been groups of bird that have been known to be altruistic for the colony)
  • Are there places that science shouldn't go?: 
    • Not that there are questions science shouldn't ask, but that there are some questions that science can't answer.  Like does one person love another person.
  • How do you know that your religion is the right one? And not all the others?
    • God approaches us and engages us in concert with our personalities and gifts.
    • God approaches people differently, some rationally, some more anecdotal
    • Prof. Schloss: went through a period of voraciously examining religions and their denials.  Had a "period of despair... had a dramatic, life-changing encounter with the presence of God. This may sound shockingly irresponsible, but it was for me self authenticating. I lack the capacity to doubt it...I was enmeshed in a variety of self-destructive patterns...those were gone.  My father is Jewish, ... my uncle was giving me flack and said, 'Why have you become Christian?' and my dad said, 'Shut up Gary, I don't know who this Jesus is, but the change he's brought about in my son's life, all I can say is God bless him.' "
    • "The heart has reasons that reason knows not" - Pascal
    • "If I allow it for the possibility that there is a God, the most sensible historical interpretation of the gospel accounts was that there was a man named Jesus, who claimed to be God, who predicted his own death and resurrection, who then died and resurrected."

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